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California Bans Confederate Flag

On Monday, the California Assembly passed legislation that would ban the state from selling or displaying the Confederate flag, or any similar image, with Republican gubernatorial candidate Tim Donnelly casting the sole vote in opposition. How they can pass a bill that clearly violate  the First Amendment and infringes on free speech is beyond me.

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The legislation passed 72 to 1 and now heads to  the state Senate for consideration.

Assemblyman Isadore Hall III (D-Compton) said the battle flag of the Confederacy is a symbol of “racism, exclusion, oppression and violence toward many Americans.”

“It’s symbolism and history is directly linked to the enslavement, torture and murder of millions of Americans through the mid-19th century,’’ Hall said. “Even today its public display is designed to instill fear, intimidation and a direct threat of violence toward others. “

Hall filed the bill after his mother, during a visit, saw a replica of Confederate money being sold at the state Capitol in Sacramento. An image of the Confederate flag is on those bills.

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Republican Donald P. Wagner (R-Irvine) spoke in support of the measure and said that contrary to Donnelly’s concern that the legislation would infringe upon free speech, the bill was limited to the state’s commercial conduct and was “tailored in way entirely appropriate. It would pass 1st Amendment muster.”

READ THE HISTORY OF THE CONFEDERATE FLAG: http://www.sonofthesouth.net/leefoundation/Confederate_Flag.htm

Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/06/bill-banning-state-confederate-flag-sales-passes/

 

39 Comments

39 Comments

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    Joe

    May 6, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    I’m sorry but the Confederate Flag is a symbol of our history. I think we should ban ignorance. But we still have stupid people walking around. God what has this America turned into.

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      truthuncensored

      May 6, 2014 at 10:59 AM

      I could not agree more. The good news is, it’s happened in CommieFornia 😛

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      Wolfie Mustang

      May 6, 2014 at 11:26 AM

      From the article it gives me the impression that the white community is at fault for the”feelings*. . Blink*

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        JB

        May 6, 2014 at 3:16 PM

        Aren’t we at fault for EVERYTHING?

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          ELLIS

          May 7, 2014 at 6:18 PM

          We’re the only group hated and called racist for taking pride in our roots…

          Southern pride til the day I die.

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        Allan

        May 7, 2014 at 10:57 AM

        Pretty sure it was a majority, if not all white cast of voters on this so spare me. I’m African American and I honestly don’t care whatsoever when I see anyone wearing or displaying the “rebel” flag

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    Frank B. Holcomb

    May 6, 2014 at 11:33 AM

    What the hell is next, banning breakfast because the people who voted for obuma can’t afford 3 meals a day?

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      matt huff

      May 6, 2014 at 12:33 PM

      They can afford 3 meals a day because we paid for it.

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    Gypsy

    May 6, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    Pit bulls do the same thing but California has a law that prohibits breed-specific legislation Why not just pass a resolution that the State can not sell souvenirs displaying the Confederate flag, why the overkill with a law?

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    Bear1

    May 6, 2014 at 12:20 PM

    I am southern Born and that flag is part of my culture and heritage, has nothing to do with race.

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      Bob Bacon

      May 6, 2014 at 12:41 PM

      Sure it does. Without white Southerners, no one else will ever fly that flag. A handful of blacks act like they care, but without white Southerners, there would be no South.

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    mark

    May 6, 2014 at 12:36 PM

    A white supremacist can walk down the street with a nazi flag or sombody with a Japanese flag doesn’t mean you WON’T get beat up or shot the govt has no right to limit or try and control anything that’s not a clear and present danger to us and it does fall under the right to free speech shouldn’t matter what color you are or who you want to marry or what part of the country your from we all have the same rights

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    Eric hunt

    May 6, 2014 at 1:04 PM

    Never be sorry. Luckily I live in Florida because I would be flying my flag higher not only because it’s our heritage and part of our history. But for the simple fact that we are a free nation and it offends me that I have to look at a Mexican flag or any other flag that is not part of this nation and that’s ok with these bleeding heart liberals. My ancestors and many of yours fought and died for our rights not the rights of politicians to tell us what we can and can’t do. I was born free and will die the same way.

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    Ryan Shields

    May 6, 2014 at 2:15 PM

    the people of California are so ignorant, and as a man with great southern pride, I am offended

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    kat

    May 6, 2014 at 2:31 PM

    Sorry folks but I agree the united states has but one flag to fly I do understand you liking your flag but that flag flew against the united states do you not remember or have you read about gettysburg alot of americans died fighting on both sides of their flags but the union won so that retired the confederate same as when we fought for our independence from england we won so their flag does not fly in the united states either with that said put your flag in your home for safe keeping as it is a part of history but you are also an American honor that flag

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      Rebel Soul

      May 6, 2014 at 5:23 PM

      Apparently your eyes and judgement have tunnel vision. It’s amazing how many different flags are displayed throughout the US, including Mexico, Ireland, Scotland, Britain, Jamaica, and yes…Africa. My family members have fought and died for this country since the Revolution and they served and died fighting for the Confederacy…not because they owned slaves, which they didn’t, but because of the atrocities forced on them by the Northern Aggression. So when you and California make everyone take down all their flags except the American flag, then you can have mine…and should you decide to try and take it before then, please be aware that I exercise ALL of my amendment rights and it will have to be pried from my cold dead hands!

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      Davis

      May 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM

      First of all the war didn’t start in Gettysburg nor was it decided there. The shot that started was on Fort Sumter and it was a fluke but Grant decided it was an opening to start the war and gain sympathy and support because it could be viewed as a defensive action. Lincoln agreed to this and gave him the war articles. This fine country was indeed founded, settled and built for people to be free of oppression from British government nd theocracy but the south was wrong to fight back on these exact principles because I assure you that we were happy to secede and be left alone. There is also one thing that people misinterpret about this war and that is that war was about slavery. This is wrong on every level but it proved successful in gaining sympathy for the government’s actions. The civil war, plain and simple, was the government’s greed for the money of the south

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      Rick Peeples

      May 6, 2014 at 7:51 PM

      Kyle you really should brush up on the federal law. It is possible you don’t even know the proper way to display the US flag judging from you post.
      The British flag is flown many places in the US. People fly the Japanese Flag and even the Nazi Flag is flown in the US. Here is the federal law.

      Display of United States Flag with Flags of Other Nations or
      of States
      The Flag Code sets out rules for position and manner of display of the flag in
      4 U.S.C. § 7. The question as to the propriety of flying the flag of another nation at
      an equal level with that of the flag of the U.S. is not clear from the face of the statute.
      Section 7 contains two subsections on point and these provisions appear to be
      contradictory. Subsection 7(c) states:
      (c) No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same
      level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except
      during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the
      church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services
      for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the
      United Nations or any other national or international flag equal,
      above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to or in place
      of the flag of the United States or any Territory or possession thereof:
      Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the
      continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag
      of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor,
      and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor,
      with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the
      United Nations.40
      Subsection 7(g) states:
      (g) When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown
      from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of
      approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of
      the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.41

      The whole Flag code can be found here:
      http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30243.pdf

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      Ross

      May 7, 2014 at 1:48 AM

      Kat: You totally got it right. Why have a flag that instantly polarizes people because of the color of their skin? Heritage, schmeritage. If it means that much to you, go buy an island somewhere and start your own anti-American heritage-based country. I can’t believe this is even being debated; and I’m a conservative Christian Republican.

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        Joe

        May 7, 2014 at 10:22 PM

        Old Glory is a representation of the profoundly racist, violent, and oppressive actions against all Native Americans. Guess we should take all the stars & stripes down because of that mistake…. right?

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      Derf

      May 7, 2014 at 10:33 AM

      the u.s flag ol red white and blue was flown when they would murder innocent native american tribes. women children,old men, not just the warriors. does it not have a bloody past? but we fly it proudly beside our native american flag at the council house. America you shud be able to fly any flag you want. its called freedom

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    Tonya bale

    May 6, 2014 at 3:59 PM

    So if I wear a tank top I will get in trouble or go to jail? I have a dog house bass tattooed on my arm and the face of the base is a confederate flag this symbolizes my papa and the Bluegrass and he was in in Louisiana .what are they going to do cut off my arm? What a crock of s***

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      Kyle

      May 6, 2014 at 5:38 PM

      This has nothing to do with the private sale or possession of Confederate Flags. In other words, they aren’t going to cut off your arm or your tank top. Keep in mind that this won’t make it illegal to display or purchase a Confederate flag, they’re just banning the California State Government itself from displaying it or selling it. Basically, you won’t see one flying on State Buildings or be able to buy one at the State Capitol gift shop. You’ll still be able to buy them other places and display them as you please. The First Amendment is still in place for the people if they so choose to fly the flag.

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    steve

    May 6, 2014 at 4:34 PM

    Display it anyway and if it becomes law then violate the law. Once it reaches the supreme court it will be overturned. Just because something is law dose not mean your wrong for violating it.

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      Adam

      May 6, 2014 at 5:26 PM

      California needs to split up. Another reason right there. We will be the state of Jefferson!

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    Lurch

    May 6, 2014 at 5:44 PM

    The only reason they say it’s used to install fear is because the kkk use it but if you look of the history of the kkk the first used to American flag so let’s ban it also so fuck congress

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    Kyle

    May 6, 2014 at 5:47 PM

    This does not affect the private sale or possession of a Confederate flag in California. This is only banning the State Government itself from selling or flying the flag in or on any state buildings. Basically, you won’t see it represented on any state building or found in the State Capitol gift shop. I don’t know many people who went to state buildings to buy Confederate flags anyways… That being said, your First Amendment rights are still in place, as you can still purchase a Confederate flag in the state of California, just not from the government. You can also display it freely at will, as no one is going to come and get you. This law does not affect the free will of the people, unless you bought your confederate flag from a State Government run shop or facility.

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    Leanne Proctor

    May 6, 2014 at 7:26 PM

    That is bullshit straight. Up bull

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    Wayne Spencer

    May 6, 2014 at 7:41 PM

    California should ban the US flag. Slavery was in effect under the Confederate flag 4 years, under the US flag 240 years. (years approx?) Under the flags of Europe 5000-10000 years. Most in Europe were Caucasian people. Who’s got the gripe? Go figure

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      Rex Stevens

      May 7, 2014 at 12:46 AM

      but it was blacks that sold black slaves to the Europeans!

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    Raildog

    May 6, 2014 at 7:45 PM

    Why would the State of California sell a Confederate Flag anyway, they weren’t part of “The South”!!! The Bill States that the State Government of California will no longer sell Confederate Flags, doesn’t say anything about the public buying or selling the Flag(even vendors selling at the Capital can sell it). Way to overreact folks!!!

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    Michelle

    May 6, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    Guess I’ll be flying mine even higher now..oops.

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      Mark Spears

      May 7, 2014 at 12:11 AM

      Blessings to you Michelle, my will be right next to yours~~~

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    Richard Dupriest

    May 6, 2014 at 11:52 PM

    This does not apply to individuals who display it only applies to the state!…Lol what in the hell was the state of California doing selling replica Confederate money at the State Capitol anyway?

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    Mark Spears

    May 7, 2014 at 12:09 AM

    Mark Spears: California democraps don’t know thier butox from a hole in the ground! Did you know that out of the 224 years that slavery was legal in this country, only four of those years did the Confederate Battle Flag fly? And by the way, there were slaves in this country in 1620. What flag flew over the country more than any other flag during those 224 years? It was the Stars and Stripes. It wasn’t the Confederate Battle Flag. It was the Stars and Stripes! Why hate and attack the Confederate Flag? I mean, if you want to hate a flag of slavery then you ought to hate the Stars and Stripes! And if you want to hate another flag of slavery, why not hate the British flag? Did you know that England was responsible for taking five million blacks from Africa and selling them to every country under the sun? If you want to hate a flag, why not hate the Dutch flag or the Portuguese flag, or the Spanish flag? They sold slaves. And if you want to hate a flag today, how about hating the Muslim flags because even today the Muslims are still involved in slavery! I mean let’s be honest. Now if you want to believe that the War of 1861 to 1865 was over slavery, I can show you two things that ought to forever correct your thinking in that area: The War was not over slavery. Slavery has only been made an issue by the liberal revisionists. It was not an issue. Let me prove to you just by two simple statements. I will give you more, but let me prove to you that the War was not fought over slavery, and therefore, this flag could never ever have represented slavery. You see Abraham Lincoln proposed a thirteenth amendment in March of 1861. It is the only proposed constitutional amendment that was signed by a sitting President. It bears Abraham Lincoln’s signature. Here was Abraham Lincoln’s proposed thirteenth amendment: ?No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give Congress the power to abolish or interfere within any state with the domestic institutions thereof, including that a person’s held to labor or service by laws of said State.? Did you hear that? Lincoln’s proposed thirteenth amendment said Congress shall not have the power to interfere with any institutions within any state including those held to labor or service by the laws of that State. In other words, what Abraham Lincoln was saying to the South, if you will accept this proposed thirteenth amendment, you may forever keep slaves. Folks, Beauregard never fired on Fort Sumter until April 9. This was in March of 1861! If the War had been about slavery and if the South wanted just to keep slaves and that was it, why fire a gun? Why fire a shot? Just simply accept his proposed thirteenth amendment and it would all be over. This resolution was passed unanimously by Congress on July 23, 1861. You may read it for yourself in the Congressional Record. Here is what this resolution says: ?The War is waged by the government of the United States not in the spirit of conquest or subjugation, nor for the purpose of overthrowing or interfering with the rights or institutions of the states, but to defend and protect the Union.? Congress said the War is not about slavery! I will even give you a thirteenth amendment that will allow you to make slavery permanent. California is sinking like a rock and this is why…the democraps don’t know what to pay attention too. Elections are coming, don’t let the mafia, unions, liberal media tell you who to vote for; do some research so we don’t get stuck with Brown, Pelosi, FeinStien or Boxer again, the 4 leaches that have destroyed what was once the fifth largest economy in the world. Remember, to them it is okay to fly the mexican flag over ours, burn it or dance on it, but it is not allowable to display one of the founding flags of our country.

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    Furor Teutonicus

    May 7, 2014 at 2:01 AM

    XX ban the state from selling or displaying the Confederate flag,XX The STATE, or does this cover private persons as well?

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    JP

    May 7, 2014 at 7:52 AM

    The same reasons they use to ban the ‘Battle Flag’ can apply to the US Flag……Commiefornia should have their own flag…oh, they do…its multicolor.

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    Daniel

    May 7, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    Then let’s band the Mexican flag. There is no point for it in california

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    Jim Sherwood

    May 7, 2014 at 2:23 PM

    Since it would be an insult to the Confederate States of America for Commiefornia to display the Stars & Bars …I concur with the vote.

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